tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post8218594870338696344..comments2023-10-31T05:13:39.415-04:00Comments on 2719 HYPERION: Blue Sky Department: New HorizonsJeffrey Pepperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00990997892044489714noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-13570087894439605042008-08-09T22:49:00.000-04:002008-08-09T22:49:00.000-04:00Jeff,It's a great idea. I'd add some sort of feat...Jeff,<BR/><BR/>It's a great idea. I'd add some sort of feature that updates the Magic Highway USA concept. It seems to me that the idea of where transportation in America is headed into the 21st and 22nd centuries would be very interesting. I'd also be interested in seeing what industrial designer Syd Mead could contribute to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-46825371724827791702008-02-08T00:31:00.000-05:002008-02-08T00:31:00.000-05:00I was very disappointed that Disney put the money ...I was very disappointed that Disney put the money into a new building for Soarin' in Florida, but then installed the CALIFORNIA film! What did that have to do with Future World or anyting, other than an a bit of an insult to Florida? I had hoped Florida would get a SOARIN' OVER AMERICA - seas-to-shining-sea film.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes the most obvious possibilities are overlooked: It never occurred to be that the Sorain' technology and animation could create visit to the future far more convincing than STAR TOURS.<BR/><BR/>I think the next generation NEW HORIZONS Soarin' could add a sprinkle of rain, and also in addition to the smooth ride, perhaps a few sudden jolts and drops? A tiny touch of Tower Terror? Perhaps an electrical storm over the New City? And maybe it's all in 3D???<BR/><BR/>Your renderings are beautiful. Make more???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-68433492846086634042007-05-02T11:24:00.000-04:002007-05-02T11:24:00.000-04:00Jeff, I love both your ideas for Dragonshire and N...Jeff, I love both your ideas for Dragonshire and New Horizons.A Medieval land, filled with dragons would be a huge hit in the Animal Kingdom, and I would love to see it. I heard you and Lou talking about Horizons on The WDW Radio Show, and I too miss Horizons terribly and wish it were still there. Your idea to bring the attraction back in a new form is excellent. I hope someone from Disney is reading this.<BR/>-JeffAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-17011479654434186962007-04-18T17:49:00.000-04:002007-04-18T17:49:00.000-04:00Hello,I am the "Imagineer nearby lurking and liste...Hello,<BR/><BR/>I am the "Imagineer nearby lurking and listening . . ." I recently stumbled on this blog posting on your vision of the "New Horizons", based on the best attraction ever at Epcot. <BR/><BR/>If you find this half as amazing as I do, you'll be truly amazed. I submitted an idea to WDW back in 1992 that is VERY much like your idea, so much so that it might make your hair stand on end. To me thats one indication of a truly good idea, when people come up with the same kind of idea separately, perhaps it means its meant to happen. <BR/><BR/>Interestingly, I had this idea so I called Disney and asked "Where do you send in suggestions" and they gave me this "I have an idea" address, so I began working on this concept, very similar to yours.<BR/><BR/>I basically took the concept of Star Tours but brought you to another planet. It took me about 1/2 year in my spare time, I had some art work done, typed up a 30+ page description of the attraction and sent it in. I got it back within a few weeks saying, "We at Disney dont take outside suggestions". Hey, I understood their stance but that whole address thing made me believe they would take a look at it.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, my idea is documented with illustrations at my new web site www.dreamersempire.com only it is hidden from normal users right now, I have to grant permission to registered users to see it. I'd like you to take a look at it.<BR/><BR/>What strikes me about your idea is you took the aspects I felt I was very weak in and imagineered them much better. I think that I captured some other elements well and the combination of the two seems very exciting to me.<BR/><BR/>Here is the "leap of faith" part that I'm now lobbying folks to consider, that this concept of the kind of Epcot that Walt envisioned IS POSSIBLE! I've given great thought on how to start something that could make Disney reconsider its future and look at an outside suggestion. Disney, imho, has losts its sense of "wonderment" and traded it mostly for "thrill rides". Horizons, as you know, was the pinnacle of wonderment, it brought a sense of future possibilities that has not been captured since. World of Motion wasn't bad, Soarin is pretty cool, but not at all the same.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, how does one even imagine that they can help start some momentum that might lend to the kind of dream you have imagined, and that Walt truly desired? If you havn't seen www.waltopia.com yet, you will see you are not far off from Walts vision.<BR/><BR/>Well, it finally occured to me what it would take to make this happen. Before I say what that is, let me say the way it usually works. A group of people begin to grow, lets say we could get 2000+ folks very interested in this, they congregate, plan, then they have a voice and manage to get it to the real imagineers at WDW, who quickly shoot it down because of the financial impossibility, and plus we already thought of that and its not feasible. Actually, thats about the best you could do, and you would feel like you gave it your best but at that point it would fizzle and you'd all give up.<BR/><BR/>So what was the main problem? The money? Well, not really. If its a good idea, there must be a way to financially sustain such an idea. And there is, and I cant tell you what it is, yet... but I will. But let me say this, its almost a no brainer, and it makes perfect sense. The idea you've put together is a good idea, I can get many people to agree with it, want it, and even help you refine it. But thats not enough, there needs to be a solid backing to this, a way to say, you can make this along with a sustaining power to it, its a no brainer, I cant believe in part no one has ever pushed the concept. But again, that will have to stay in the lurches for now.<BR/><BR/>But lets say I'm right, there is something that is actually much bigger, that could sustain your idea, your theme park, if you will. This "something" is actually much more costly than your idea! But its solid, its absolutely perfect, and I'll give this clue, it would complete Walts vision for Epcot. So here is something even bigger, but at least its solid enough to believe in.<BR/><BR/>But how on earth do you get that to happen? Then, out of the blue I had this idea that could make it happen. I havn't shared this with anyone, not one person in the world. Its similar in a way to the milliondollarhomepage.com idea, check it out if you arn't familiar with it, but a young guy from England made about 1 million bucks by selling one pixel at a dollar a piece on a million pixel web site. He made over 1 million.<BR/><BR/>My idea isn't that at all, but its a once in a lifetime, no one has done it, and no one will ever be able to do it again, but its a pretty interesting idea. It will cause something to happen, and that will make the world take note of this "bigger" idea, that could sustain this WDW attraction.<BR/><BR/>You see now that the normal "get a small group of enthusiasts" excited and present their case, you stand little/no chance of making something big happen, it would fizzle. In my case, you would have millions of people not only aware but also supporting our ideas, such a strong voice in fact that if WDW didn't do it, someone else would. And that would definately be a huge motivation for Disney to do it. As a matter of fact, the difference, the major difference, is that now Disney doesn't see this as a "good idea" that is financially unsound, but see's it as an absolute necessity, or else they will themselves fizzle away. Do I want them to? Absoslutely not, but its inevitable if they dont hold to Disneys ideals.<BR/><BR/>Now, if you are not thoroughly drained from this, go to www.dreamersempire.com and sign up, and I'll give you rights to see "A Trip Thru the Galaxy", the idea I submitted to WDW in 1992.dreamersempirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07020394306952518707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-89045536659188216862007-04-06T00:13:00.000-04:002007-04-06T00:13:00.000-04:00I love your ideas! I was devastated when they des...I love your ideas! I was devastated when they destroyed Future World, er, Horizons. Dinosaurs and Figments just don't do it for me.<BR/><BR/>Does WDI have a suggestion box somewhere for great concepts like yours? (seriously)<BR/><BR/>New Horizons could attempt to bring back Walt's Epcot...<BR/><BR/>Craig (Rocketeer @ DWT.com)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-64448445655911752402007-03-09T16:35:00.000-05:002007-03-09T16:35:00.000-05:00What an awesome idea! As you said too bad the cost...What an awesome idea! As you said too bad the cost makes it highly unlikely. <BR/><BR/>Why not instead of having seperate incarnations of TransExpress Destinations, whereby your experience is decided in the queue, bring back the interactivity of the original Horizons. That's what always sold it to me. With modern technology we could have an amazing interactive simulator, where the choices could be either a) majority rules, as in the original Horizons, or b) have smaller simulators and pick up where mission: Space dropped the ball and have the interactivity actually affect the outcome. I was so disappointed when I was on mission: Space, didn't follow my "task" and the computer "overrode". A great idea down the drain. This would avoid any potential favored experience causing long queues on one simulator, theoretically of course, while the others could potentialy be going unused. Plus it'd be a great throwback to the original.Scottyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01282858081380770732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-21626829681140360552007-03-07T22:48:00.000-05:002007-03-07T22:48:00.000-05:00Dean--My reasoning for Future World west was that ...Dean--<BR/><BR/>My reasoning for Future World west was that according to a Google Earth view, the only open area large enough for it was that space between the Seas and the Land.Jeffrey Pepperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990997892044489714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-77564332282984962512007-03-06T13:02:00.000-05:002007-03-06T13:02:00.000-05:00A very nice blue-sky concept. The updated Futurep...A very nice blue-sky concept. The updated Futureport adds the social setting that the original Horizons didn't have. (Even the pavilion's designers wish there would have at least been a GE post-show.) Your description makes me think of something similar to the Land court, though it can certainly take another form. Considering the similarities, it might be better to place New Horizons in Future World East.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-12509896075135505812007-03-05T21:51:00.000-05:002007-03-05T21:51:00.000-05:00Jeff - how inspired!! I'm totally in! Where do I s...Jeff - how inspired!! I'm totally in! Where do I sign up to do some voices? Great work! Keep it up!<BR/><BR/>JonathanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-26968631050759321862007-03-05T16:16:00.000-05:002007-03-05T16:16:00.000-05:00Thanks guys for all the nice things you've said!To...Thanks guys for all the nice things you've said!<BR/><BR/>Tony: Yes, I was an RCT player, back during its first incarnations. How'd you guess?<BR/><BR/>BJ: Stay tuned on the WDW Radio Show--more DSI segments are on the way.Jeffrey Pepperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990997892044489714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-73647668122809012562007-03-05T15:13:00.000-05:002007-03-05T15:13:00.000-05:00Jeff, I swear you need a podcast for 2719 Hyperion...Jeff, I swear you need a podcast for 2719 Hyperion! Some of the great stuff that you've been doing here is very, very, VERY cool, and I'd love to hear another Disney podcast (admittedly...)<BR/><BR/>Love what you're doing not only here, but over at DisneyWorldTrivia.com and on the WDW Radio show.<BR/><BR/>BJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-91342386139492105972007-03-05T15:03:00.000-05:002007-03-05T15:03:00.000-05:00Well planned Jeff. I would more than like to see a...Well planned Jeff. I would more than like to see a "New Horizons" at Epcot. Great concept - you really are a "closet Imagineer"! (You aren't a Roller Coaster Tycoon fan, are ya?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34647587.post-86387838003080204532007-03-05T01:16:00.000-05:002007-03-05T01:16:00.000-05:00I couldn't agree more that Future World needs dire...I couldn't agree more that Future World needs dire refurbishment and that your concept of a "New Horizons" would be the single greatest thing at EPCOT. Keep up the good work and check out my blog if you get a chance: paleofuture.comMatt Novakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09360406896692501416noreply@blogger.com